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てんより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

全体的なレベルが上がってきたことも理由として大きい気がする。
長年経って周りのプレイヤーのスマブラ力も流石にザクレイに追いつきつつあるから、”処理して勝つ”プレイを完遂する難易度が上がってるのかな。
まじかるさいばしより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

今のセフィと何も変わらなくて涙が止まりません
いやしごより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ゲッチとかウルフとかもポケットに入れといてくれると嬉しいんだけどなぁ。
ぶっちっぱくんより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

サムネの内容初っ端に持ってきてくれるのすごく助かる
バルドルより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

話しながらカズヤミシマ処していくのおもろ
かいとより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ツバキさんってほんとに凄いんだな
明智吾郎より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ザクさんにはDL2対策しまくって無双して欲しい
Tanya Degurechaff より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

この話を踏まえると昔のジョーカーが強かった時代はジョーカーが強かったのではなく実際の所周りのプレイヤーのレベルが追い付いてなかっただけということだよな
そして追いついてしまった今ではもはやジョーカーの強み(だったもの)は無いと
たけしより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

アルセーヌの事上司とかパパとかに例えるのおもろすぎるww
とらんぷ【詩乃】より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

いつでもぶっ壊せるやつらが蔓延ってる今の環境に、ちまちまダメージ与えていく立ち回りキャラはホントに時代遅れに近いのかね…
reefs coral より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

9:39 こういう時、自分がある程度%有利だったらスティック崖外に倒してゴミヤと一緒に落ちてくと自分の勝ちになって面白いからおすすめ
特に崖近くでガード張ってるとよくパナしてくれる
Irene より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

任天堂はもう一度アプデを再開するべき。ピチューとか全盛期に戻したり、ジョーカーも反逆ゲージ元に戻したりしていい。色んなキャラがバフもらえれば環境が変わって面白くなりそう。
コーシー　{Cauchy} より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

他ゲーみたいに一定期間でバフナーフ入ってくれればなぁ….多様性も生まれて絶対もっと面白くなるのに。そしてそのポテンシャルもあると思う….ニンテンドーの方針だからしょうがないけどね。
あるとより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ミーヤーあcola見ると、あれだけ練度とキャラ対と人対策と反射神経を合わせ持って今回やっと勝てたレベルだから、ゲッチでやるなら相当頑張らんとね
からからより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

もう屋根裏部屋で懸垂してるだけじゃ環境についていけなくなってしまったジョーカー君悲しい
めいより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

タイトル見てジョーカーのことやろなぁ…って思ったけどザクレイといえばジョーカーみたいなとこあるから寂しさはあるよね
スマリプより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ジョーカーって毎日スマブラに打ち込むくらいして練度を高く維持しておかないと大会で運用するのきつそうな感じがする
神白くん配信より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ジョーカーの話身に染みてわかるわぁ、、、
りょーうより:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

ザクレイジョーカーが見れなくなるのは寂しいな…
H. ‡π より:

2023年10月16日 5:03 PM

スマブラをプロレベルにまで突き詰めると、人間の反応速度に限界があるせいで運に辿り着く。
たとえ差し合いの勝率が五分でも、相手のキャラのリターンが高ければ相手が勝つ。
ステやカズヤは一度だけ差し合いに勝てば60%or撃墜までもって行けるから、たとえジョーカーで差し合い勝率80%だったとしても、カズヤが差し合いの20%で得たリターンで負ける可能性が高い。

これが、極みに達しつつある(立ち回りの平均レベルが最上位勢に近くなった)スマブラ界隈で起きていること。
立ち回りで勝ってても、一回の差し勝ちで得られるもので相手に負けたら、実力どうこうの話じゃない。

ただザクレイのピットは着地狩り、復帰阻止、崖狩りなどのターン継続でマシなリターンを取れるから、篝火で高い成績を残せてる。

ザクレイがピットでやっているのは、他のプレイヤーが真似てみても成し得ないプレイ。
だから日本1位じゃなくなったってザクレイが大好きで応援したくなる。
以上、独り語り。
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