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2021/04/27(火) 11:31:52.519 ID:fhsKi6vGa
あほふ
2021/04/27(火) 11:32:06.699 ID:gtFXh5vB0
ワロタ!
2021/04/27(火) 11:32:30.113 ID:TV3t+Xou0
まあアホだとは思う自分自身
2021/04/27(火) 11:32:53.963 ID:BRUwQqpn0
ウマ娘やろうぜ
2021/04/27(火) 11:33:57.057 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>6
やってるよ
課金はしてないけど
2021/04/27(火) 11:34:18.971 ID:qsvDklW40
何にどれくらい課金したの?
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:01.568 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>9
FGOに数百万
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:28.044 ID:9+b/SE6P0
>>14
売っちゃったのか
2021/04/27(火) 11:39:31.333 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>17
支払いできなくてね結局売った
2021/04/27(火) 11:39:26.289 ID:j6zLcuWH0
>>14
そっかギャンブルと同類かー
時代を感じるね
2021/04/27(火) 11:34:43.309 ID:j6zLcuWH0
ソシャゲ課金って申請する際にギャンブルのカテゴリーになるの?
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:01.568 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>10
面積不可理由になるのでギャンブル浪費カテゴリーかな
2021/04/27(火) 11:34:46.613 ID:9+b/SE6P0
先生、課金したデータは資産になりますか!?
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:01.568 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>11
課金したデータは売っちゃったので分からん
どちらにしろ20万以下資産程度にしかならないから没収されないんじゃないかな
2021/04/27(火) 11:34:47.453 ID:dzkKFiv40
一番高額なレア何?
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:01.568 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>12
アンチラかな?
2021/04/27(火) 11:36:01.076 ID:wbtMXzTR0
課金でも申請通るんだね
2021/04/27(火) 11:38:18.905 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>13
というかギャンブル浪費でも大概は免責される
まあ裁判官の裁量次第だけど
少額管財扱いで管財弁護人つくので同時廃止破産より高額にはなる
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:07.480 ID:bMetyPOca
課金通るんか
ダメだと聞いていたが
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:26.183 ID:PCXx/bqt0
数百万て…
2021/04/27(火) 11:37:58.780 ID:qsvDklW40
FGOかー
やってないけどガチャやばいらしいね
2021/04/27(火) 11:39:31.333 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>18
FGOよりウマ娘とかサイゲ系の方がやばいと俺は思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:39:55.992 ID:iB+lUUvd0
依存症?
2021/04/27(火) 11:42:18.269 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>22
依存症だったとおもう引かないと落ち着かなかったし
2021/04/27(火) 11:43:39.502 ID:6ocn4i6B0
>>26
SNSは本当によくないな
2021/04/27(火) 11:45:39.773 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>30
今の俺だと本当にそう思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:47:33.020 ID:iB+lUUvd0
>>26
おれもソシャゲに50万くらい使った時は依存症だと思って辞めたわ
SNSも絡むと自己顕示欲が刺激されて狂うよな
2021/04/27(火) 11:49:59.299 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>43
今だからわかるけどほんとおかしかったわ自分
2021/04/27(火) 11:54:26.088 ID:sMMk20Gs0
>>50
受けてないのかー
ガチャ依存治したいんだけどなんか辞める努力した?
それともまだガチャしたい?
2021/04/27(火) 11:58:49.288 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>62
ガチャしたいけど率直に言って金がない
クレカもないし生活できなくなるのでできない
2021/04/27(火) 11:39:58.138 ID:6ocn4i6B0
どういう心理でそうなるんだ?
2021/04/27(火) 11:42:18.269 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>23
とりあえず新規キャラは引きたい
SNSで上げてるから最大値まで限界突破してみえはりたい
って感じだと思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:40:30.283 ID:dzkKFiv40
そうか…FGO知らんからなんとも…
2021/04/27(火) 11:42:18.269 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>24
アンチラはグラブルなんだすまない
2021/04/27(火) 11:41:44.590 ID:QHwt3heb0
☆5の宝具5コレクションでもしたのか?
2021/04/27(火) 11:43:03.232 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>25
ぶっちゃけそうだね、売る前まではほぼほぼ星5は全部宝具5だった
2021/04/27(火) 11:43:00.635 ID:gReaZhGxr
FGOちょっとやってみたけどFate知らんし
ゲーム性無くてtheソシャゲって感じでつまらなかったな
なんであんなもんに借金してまで数百万課金するん?
2021/04/27(火) 11:44:29.835 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>27
そりゃ人の趣味だろ
俺だって三国志系のソシャゲで数百万課金してるとか言われても、はっ?って思うし
2021/04/27(火) 11:43:31.938 ID:I8zZthjfd
親がちゃんとしてないと子どもでも課金できるのがパチスロ等より厄介だな課金界隈
2021/04/27(火) 11:45:39.773 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>29
というかそれなりに稼ぎがあって信用情報高いと、一度大課金するとタガが外れる
2021/04/27(火) 11:44:37.620 ID:fSs6Vhcxa
規制していいと思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:44:39.030 ID:iJmJAVFy0
対人とかランキングあるゲームなら何が何でも上位取りたいって熱くなってしまい課金しまくるのもわからなくはないが、それらが無いFGOでようそんな課金するな無意味すぎるだろ
2021/04/27(火) 11:47:12.472 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>33
SNSによる承認欲求だと思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:47:08.890 ID:f0k/Gioo0
>>33
ツイッターで「カントツしました!」って言って画像張ると承認欲求が満たされる人種は実際に居る
そういう奴にとってツイッターはPvPの場に等しい
2021/04/27(火) 11:48:36.389 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>40
まじでそれ
2021/04/27(火) 11:50:50.055 ID:7SFmeXGd0
>>46
管財人めんどくさい奴じゃなくて良かったな
親が貯金してるお前のお年玉とかも財産とみなされて調査とかされてたらクソめんどかったぞ
2021/04/27(火) 11:52:13.701 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>51
いや、弁護士費用と生活費でなくなったので管財人が突っ込む前にゼロになっただけ
一年間無職だったのでお陰で車も売却
2021/04/27(火) 11:55:37.409 ID:7SFmeXGd0
>>54
なるほどな
破産した後は課金し放題やけど考えて課金しろよ
2021/04/27(火) 11:58:49.288 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>64
残念ながら管財人に家計簿監視されるのでしほうだいってわけじゃない
2021/04/27(火) 11:53:51.722 ID:vg5YqfrNa
>>46
だよね…1を反面教師にして破産する前にやめよ…
これからは無課金でソシャゲするの?
2021/04/27(火) 11:56:45.846 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>58
無課金だしある程度ソシャゲ自体は自粛してる
ウマはやってるけど
2021/04/27(火) 11:49:49.787 ID:QHwt3heb0
>>33
FGOの重課金者は基本的に見栄だよ
課金導線は基本的にガチャとスタミナの2つだけど
2021/04/27(火) 11:51:10.086 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>49
同意
2021/04/27(火) 11:54:00.597 ID:QHwt3heb0
>>52
重課金しながら旅行ってかなり稼ぎあるんじゃねえの?
どこで狂ったんだ
2021/04/27(火) 11:56:45.846 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>59
年収四百五十ぐらいだからそこまでじゃない
今は半分以下だし
2021/04/27(火) 11:45:33.054 ID:QHwt3heb0
何人宝具マにしたか知らんがそりゃ死ぬわ
期待値20万とかだろ
2021/04/27(火) 11:47:12.472 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>34
一人引くのに12マンとかかけてた
2021/04/27(火) 11:45:38.635 ID:EC75Qe7Z0
止められたきっかけって何?
2021/04/27(火) 11:47:12.472 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>35
金が尽きてどうしようもなくなったから
貯金の400マンとかも消えた
2021/04/27(火) 11:46:54.948 ID:vg5YqfrNa
リボ払い課金わたし震える
2021/04/27(火) 11:48:36.389 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>38
リボはほんとやめろ
ほんとだからな….
2021/04/27(火) 11:46:59.236 ID:8yjPcf+Z0
fgoって馬に負けた敗北者の?
2021/04/27(火) 11:48:36.389 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>39
ハァハァ敗北者…..
2021/04/27(火) 11:48:23.114 ID:dzkKFiv40
MAX仕上げにしないとそれまでの課金が全て無駄になる感覚
2021/04/27(火) 11:49:59.299 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>44
そういう感覚で回すンダよなー
2021/04/27(火) 11:48:26.289 ID:tlwn/s340
親は?
2021/04/27(火) 11:49:59.299 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>45
もう知ってる
2021/04/27(火) 11:52:05.084 ID:q6QC537/0
借金しながら課金してたということ?
どこから金を借りてたの?
2021/04/27(火) 11:53:25.328 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>53
んー少しフェイクは入れるが
アコム、バンクイック、三井住友、JCB、楽天、その他諸々
2021/04/27(火) 11:52:31.796 ID:5OJgRP1V0
なるほどガチャはギャンブル依存と買い物依存のダブル効果
SNSで承認欲求まで満たせる
これは流行るわけだ
2021/04/27(火) 11:54:18.270 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>55
まあだから俺が破産したわけだ
2021/04/27(火) 11:53:29.624 ID:awC35kImM
FGOエンディング出るまでやったけど
︎5一つも出なかったなぁ
リセマラの時点で課金する気無くなったわ
2021/04/27(火) 11:56:45.846 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>57
あれはリセマラひどい苦行だから仕方ない
2021/04/27(火) 11:54:18.571 ID:7zx2hL6c0
旅行や物を買ったりした金は別にいいと思うよ
デジタルデータに金出すのは理解できんわ
2021/04/27(火) 11:56:45.846 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>61
趣味なんてそんなもんだろ
鉄道模型に金出してる人は俺は理解できないし
2021/04/27(火) 11:54:35.922 ID:/aNZcbCBp
天井なんて形だけで一切無いシステムだからな
2021/04/27(火) 11:58:49.288 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>63
サイゲの天井システムは有情とか言われてるけどピックアップの確率考えるとFGOより酷いと思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:56:54.191 ID:hf9dLbv90
了解!リボンザム!
2021/04/27(火) 12:00:22.496 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>67
家賃の3倍課金!
2021/04/27(火) 11:57:28.091 ID:6D76Qz3ar
復権できそう?w
2021/04/27(火) 12:00:22.496 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>69
まあ免責されたらなんとか
2021/04/27(火) 11:59:21.691 ID:vn6H9Bw00
ガチャ破産とか何歳よ?
2021/04/27(火) 12:01:18.387 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>72
秘密だけどいい大人だと思う
2021/04/27(火) 11:59:38.768 ID:vg5YqfrNa
破産してもガチャしたくなるのか
震えてきた
2021/04/27(火) 12:01:18.387 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>73
まじでね
依存症って怖
2021/04/27(火) 12:01:03.783 ID:lZwlzr+B0
スレやTwitterでイキって無微をバカにしたり自慢したりしてたの?
2021/04/27(火) 12:02:47.918 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>75
無課金バカにはしないけど無課金だけがゲームを盛り上げてるってやつはバカにしてた
2021/04/27(火) 12:01:51.860 ID:sMMk20Gs0
キャリア決済で課金したりしちゃわない?
クレカ止まっても出来るのヤベェ
2021/04/27(火) 12:03:53.160 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>79
信用情報傷つくとキャリア決済も少なくなるンダよ
8マンあったのが今は5セン
2021/04/27(火) 12:02:55.998 ID:sMMk20Gs0
サイゲはサプチケ以外触ってはいけないと思う
2021/04/27(火) 12:04:26.210 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>83
同意
2021/04/27(火) 12:04:27.780 ID:nAFO8HK20
若いならなんとでもなるでしょ
30以上とかで賃貸済だと挽回きついかもね
2021/04/27(火) 12:07:00.884 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>87
まあできたらいいね….
2021/04/27(火) 12:08:00.844 ID:EgLappiLp
>>91
実家暮らしだったからな
2021/04/27(火) 12:10:06.953 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>94
俺も途中までは実家だったわ
2021/04/27(火) 12:05:49.744 ID:EgLappiLp
俺もソシャゲに一千万くらい使ったけどもう完全にやめた
2021/04/27(火) 12:07:00.884 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>89
同じぐらい使ってるけどよく耐えてるな
2021/04/27(火) 12:06:31.208 ID:szZmREtm0
まあやっちまったならしょうがない
2021/04/27(火) 12:09:53.165 ID:f0k/Gioo0
ツイで課金戦士芸するなら1000万が無視できる端数になるくらいじゃないとダメだな
ところで破産について全く詳しくないんだけど一生そのままなの?
2021/04/27(火) 12:11:40.948 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>99
七年間ほど信用情報保存されるけどそれ以降は消える
が、会社によっては会社自体で永遠保存してるかもしれない
2021/04/27(火) 12:12:00.195 ID:l63VH76t0
最近はウマ娘で沼ってるYouTuberよく見るけど、ウマ娘FGOよりやばくね?
2021/04/27(火) 12:14:45.926 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>103
そう思います
2021/04/27(火) 12:13:31.139 ID:/aNZcbCBp
ウマはサポカ完凸しようと思うと果てしなく沼なのがヤバイ
2021/04/27(火) 12:14:45.926 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>106
沼だねぇあれは
2021/04/27(火) 12:15:00.671 ID:ZBLTfxokd
ウマはガチ勢になるなら地獄だけどそうじゃなければ割と余裕
2021/04/27(火) 12:17:38.842 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>108
うーんまあレースしなきゃかなぁ?
2021/04/27(火) 12:35:14.307 ID:nCt/Fb6Ip
ワシ踏み倒しとるで
黒服に追いかけられるリアル逃走中できるから楽しいぞ
2021/04/27(火) 12:16:02.970 ID:Ce+/OMVsd
毎月ソシャゲに10万も20万も課金しちゃう人って10割が他に趣味が無いんだよね
2021/04/27(火) 12:17:38.842 ID:TV3t+Xou0
>>109
革製品集めっていう趣味あったけど、どちらかというと成功体験がほぼほぼない人がハマるんじゃないかな
俺の体験談だけど
2021/04/27(火) 13:04:31.897 ID:BNBRObvK0
そもそも天井の額がおかしいもんソシャゲって
感覚狂ってるのを利用して本当に日本の企業ってやり方が汚い
2021/04/27(火) 12:18:11.676 ID:TV3t+Xou0
まあそろそろ終わるわ
7年後に真人間に戻れたらいいな
2021/04/27(火) 12:18:56.213 ID:6ocn4i6B0
三千円でもうやんねーをいろんなソシャゲで繰り返してる
2021/04/27(火) 12:22:33.023 ID:h4RdLQ3VM
自分もfgoにリボ払いで課金してた 総額150万くらい
おまとめローンに振り替えて頑張って返した
2021/04/27(火) 13:09:52.438 ID:+bUXmwRba
グラブルとFGOどっちもやってるけどFGOの方がダンチでヤバいよ
グラブルは意外と金使わんし
2021/04/27(火) 13:55:13.319 ID:fpIWukHya
ホントにこんな奴いるんだな
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